Molly Ruland:

Alright. Alright. Alright. We’re coming in hot this morning. It’s been a minute since an episode of Camp Content has gone live, but here we are. I know you guys have missed us so tremendously, and we have an excellent guest today. I’m super excited to introduce today’s guest, Kelly Feldkamp. She’s a trailblazer in the world of workplace health and wellness.

Molly Ruland:

She’s the visionary founder of Provention Plus, a groundbreaking on-site injury prevention company that’s revolutionizing the way companies care for their manual labor and craft employees. With a master’s degree in exercise and wellness, Kelly has dedicated the last 2 decades of her life to perfecting the art of helping what she calls jobsite athletes move better and live pain free, which I love, by the way. Like, jobsite athletes are so accurate. I don’t think, like, hard working people get enough credit for how physical that labor is. She is the brilliant mind behind the Move Better program, which is a transformative approach that has touched the lives of thousands of individuals in physically demanding professions. But what sets Kelly apart is her unwavering passion for Empowering job site athletes to reduce the discomfort that many have come to accept as an unfortunate part of their profession. She firmly believes that pain shouldn’t be an occupational hazard, and she’s on a mission to prove it. So on a personal note, Kelly is, her achievements extend well beyond her impressive professional endeavors, but she’s also a devoted mother of 3 amazing boys, and has a pretty cool husband too.

Molly Ruland:

I can attest to that, and is balancing her family and career with grace and determination? That’s a good one right there. So, Kelly, thank you for joining us. Excited to have you on, as you know, but our audience doesn’t. We’ve been working with you for a couple months now, getting you booked on some podcasts and doing some stuff. And, so, yeah, it’s really exciting to have you here, so thanks for coming on the show today.

Kelly Feldkamp:

No. Thanks for having me. I’m really excited to be here and talk to you a little bit and just have spent some time with you guys.

Molly Ruland:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I gotta say you have a super sweet setup there. You got a nice microphone. You got the whole

Kelly Feldkamp:

I’m all set. I’m very careful with everything too. No. It’s great. Yeah. It’s great. We’ve got it all figured out over here, and we’re ready for a podcast and ready to kinda get our message out there a little bit, make some changes in the culture of of the job site, I’m a job

Molly Ruland:

site. Yeah. Well, your studio looks super good. I’m kind of jealous. I used to have a lot of, like, dark panels and stuff, but now I live in the land of sunshine, so it’s, It’s impossible to

Kelly Feldkamp:

Oh, yeah. What a bummer, Malley.

Molly Ruland:

I know. I know. You feel very sorry for me. I’m sure you will. So Kelly, tell me a little bit about prevention. When did you form prevention plus? And, like, you know, I’m just curious because I’m somebody who’s lived in pain my whole life, and While people are empathetic to it, you know, if it’s not your life, it’s not the same. Right? And it’s hard to find somebody who really understands how difficult that can be, and it’s really hard to find somebody to advocate for you. So how did you find yourself in this world of, you know, obviously benefiting businesses, but, like, truly caring about people.

Molly Ruland:

Where did that all come from?

Kelly Feldkamp:

Yeah. I thought so, so I started back at college. I went to college for kinesiology, so I was Really interested in human movement to begin with. That was part of it right there. And then I went on and got a master’s in exercise and wellness. It was a fancy way of saying health promotion, I think, or getting you ready to go on for more learning. And I was like, well, you know what? The master’s is cool. I learned a lot, but I don’t want to go into Research on exercise.

Kelly Feldkamp:

I already felt like, let’s just get me out there and start working with people. And I had the opportunity at one point to work with a chiropractor Who set himself up in the industrial setting, and I thought, wow. This is an interesting idea. And he’s like, I want you to be a part of this. Why don’t you start stretching people? And I was like, Great. I know fitness. I can stretch with people. But I realized, like, that there’s something missing.

Kelly Feldkamp:

I can’t just go out to someone and say they’re like, my shoulder doesn’t feel good. I’m like, okay. Stretch. And they’re not gonna that that’s not gonna make a big impact for them. So at that point then, I I started getting into, Like, what else can I do? And because I was seeing all these people come in, and they were really in pain. And they weren’t. They weren’t, they had to do their job anyways, and it didn’t matter. So they would go home at the end of the day, and they would lay on the ground for, like, an hour or 2 hours just so they could Get up the next morning and do it again and still feel terrible. So I started looking into massage therapy.

Kelly Feldkamp:

I started looking into how I can actually have a better effect on people’s bodies? And so Over the last 20 years with a combination of manual therapy, some massage therapy techniques, and stretching and Exercises and breathing. I can’t combine all this stuff into being able to work with people who otherwise aren’t getting the help that they would need. Now I know there’s people everywhere that are in pain and you are one example. And sometimes we know what to do, sometimes we don’t know. But I wanna be that person who can reach out to someone and show them that there is maybe something that they can do. Of course, it’s not gonna work for everybody, but The majority of people, there is a certain thing that they can do to help themselves feel a little bit better, to make their job better, to make their day better, to make their life better. Inevitably, my goal overall is yes. Of course, I wanna save the company money, but my goal is how can I make that person enjoy their life a little bit more, Have a little bit more get up and go when it comes to their kids or their friends or their family, that kind of thing?

Molly Ruland:

Oh, just do not feel like crap sitting in their chair all day.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Correct. And that’s the thing actually, interestingly enough, I mean, you think about it, the job site athlete is someone who’s out doing manual labor all day long. And that’s, like, my passion, right, to help those folks that are out there moving all day because that’s how that’s Yeah. That’s how they make their money. But the people that have to sit at the desk all day long also have situations too. So I’m always happy to work with those folks too. I get the opportunity with a company to work from Executive to manual labor and everyone in between, administrative assistant, you name it. I’m there to help them with our team and I’m there to help their team, basically.

Matt Billman:

Love it. So you said you don’t have to just go tell somebody to stretch and hope it works, but now you can do all of this. Are there some certain examples or some stories that you have from that maybe since you now do say you work with the working manual labor people and maybe a story from somebody like myself who sits here all day and

Kelly Feldkamp:

Absolutely. And

Matt Billman:

I just got a new chair last week for my birthday.

Molly Ruland:

It was very. More comfy

Matt Billman:

now, but, yeah, if you have anything from those 2.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Definitely. Definitely. Well, the one I really like is the one that got me, and I don’t know why it hit me so hard. And maybe it’s not the same for everybody, but I have a guy on the job site, And he was having major cramping in his legs as well as some foot pain pretty regularly for years. And he would come in regularly to see me And our staff, and we would see each other once a week, basically. And he came in one day, a couple of, like, weeks after seeing me For the 1st time, he’s like, you know what? I don’t have to have my wife rub my feet every night after work anymore. And I was blown away because for me, the last thing, Honestly, that this man’s wife needs to be doing is rubbing his feet every night when he gets home from work because he’s in so much pain. And so now I freed them both up from him from pain, her from having to do something she probably doesn’t wanna do even if she likes him very much.

Kelly Feldkamp:

She doesn’t need to sit in

Matt Billman:

No. Not every day.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Every night. Right? So that was a big, big win for me, and I just felt super excited about that one. One of the other ones actually from, actually from a sitting guy that sits at his desk all day long is he was dealing with sciatica for a really long time. And He was so limited in the things that he could do in general, but certainly, like, outside of work. And he came back one day, and he said, I gotta tell you, Kelly, I was able to go for a walk with my kids last night, and it did not cause me pain. And for me, again, that was something that just made me feel so excited because I didn’t I don’t get to see these folks every day. It’s not like we get to work with them on a daily basis. The point is regularly.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Once a week, once every 2 weeks, We’re following up. We’re making sure we’re keeping track of what’s going on with them. And, again, we’re giving them the information that then they can take for themselves to make the small changes That hopefully will create big changes in the world. Those 2 examples are, like, ones that kinda hit me hard.

Matt Billman:

I guess a quick follow-up to that. You know, are you Specifically going in, obviously, and just helping, but are you also at the same time maybe looking for tendencies in that workplace environment or what they do on a daily basis that could cause that to happen?

Kelly Feldkamp:

This is the key. So let’s do it. Let’s do 2 different scenarios here. 1, sitting at a job sitting on a computer. So a lot of times, we talk about ergonomics. We talk about chairs. Right? Getting the right chair, getting the right computer monitor, all of these things. All wonderful things.

Kelly Feldkamp:

This is your environment. Make it as productive as possible for you, but we’re still dealing with the human being and the human being that puts themselves in this situation. So for example, I’m sitting at my desk all day long, and I’m actually talking to someone over here. But I don’t even realize that I’m doing it, like, for hours and hours a day, and then they come in to see me, and they’ve got pain in their neck, and they don’t know why. So that’s a really simple thing as I say, tell me take me through your day. And if I have the opportunity, I’ll often go see desks. I’ll see the setup and say, hey. Here’s what we’re gonna do.

Kelly Feldkamp:

We’re gonna take both of your monitors. We’re gonna put them right in front of you. We’re gonna make some shifts so you know now when you Need to do work this way. You actually turn your entire body that way. Simple, but you don’t notice it when you’re doing it every day. It’s not part of your life, you don’t see that. And then in the job site, one of the best ones that I see often is like, just say interior guy who’s carrying sheetrock or drywall all day long. He lifts it up and puts it down the exact same way all day on repeat.

Kelly Feldkamp:

8 hours a day at minimum, and then he’s doing that 5 or 6 days a week. And so these people literally come in a little crooked. And so the idea is, hey. This is what you’re doing all day long. Let’s give you a movement to do the opposite of that. So I will then take them through an exercise where they’re not lifting anything, but they’re doing the opposite motion. The key for me, if I can have any impact on someone is to say, hey. Move your body in a different way than you have to all day long.

Kelly Feldkamp:

So what is the most opposite motion that you can do? Not extreme, Just opposite. If you work bent over all day long, you gotta open things up. If you work up like this, you gotta bring things down. So Mhmm. And if I can just get that little seed in there, When someone’s been doing something, it doesn’t feel great to, like, I gotta twist to the left or I gotta twist right. Right? So that’s kind of like everything I do; it’s not rocket science at all. It is super simple. I keep it as simple as my team and I were like, we need to make people remember, And so it doesn’t need to be complex at all in any way, shape, or form.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Now in our minds, how we’re thinking about it is like, okay. We’re working on these muscles. We’re doing this. So it’s a little bit more in-depth for us, but it’s still a simple, simple concept.

Molly Ruland:

So, yeah, that kinda touches on, like, physical therapy, right, because you feel like you’re doing, like, really, you know, silly moves. They’re so small. They they don’t really feel like you’re doing anything, but then surprise, surprise, like, the pain goes away and you start feeling better because it’s just those those opposite movements, like you said, and I feel like, I feel like what you do is really important because, like, as somebody who’s dealt with this a lot, people will say, Oh, we’ll do this exercise every morning, and they want me to, like, get on the floor and put my legs on the wall. And I’m like, do you have any idea that I move, like, a 2,000 year old skeleton in the morning, and, like, I can’t even get on the ground. And if I get there, I’m not gonna get back up again, and that might work if you’re, like, a yoga chick on Instagram, but, like, That ain’t me, dude. You know what I mean? So I think I like really tailoring things to where these people are at because, you know, the content out there is not for them. You know? It’s not for them at all. So No.

Kelly Feldkamp:

You meet people, you meet people exactly where they are, and each person’s gonna be completely different. Everything that I would ever tell you to do is likely going to be while you’re laying down in bed before you even get out of bed.

Molly Ruland:

And as it should be because That’s about as good as it’s gonna get anyway, so, you know, we can imagine me on the floor, but, you know,

Kelly Feldkamp:

it’s not gonna happen. It’s in dreams. It’s good.

Molly Ruland:

So what are some key signs of you know, because you well, let’s back let me back it up a little bit. PreventionPlus works with these large companies. Right? And so what is a big sign for a company that they need somebody like you to come in? What are the indicating factors?

Kelly Feldkamp:

Yeah. The big indicators are high levels of soft tissue injuries, which are just strains, sprains, things that are happening from chronic, overuse or extension type situations. Anyone in this, like, work environment, they’ll know what a soft tissue injury is, and they’ll know like, hey. We’ve got really high numbers. They cost the company a lot of money, which is obviously a big deal. But in addition to that, they cost the loyalty of your employees. People don’t wanna work for a company that has Nonstop injuries, especially since the injury care for folks is pretty bleak. And I will say this, like, in the future, another goal is to have we’re gonna Try to help change that process as well.

Kelly Feldkamp:

But for now, we’re sticking on the prevention side because we can make such a big difference there. But, really so you’re looking at someone at a company that has high injuries and or the high possibility of injuries, something where there’s a super repetitive task that has to happen by human beings. Technology isn’t meeting us there and or if it tries, it doesn’t do it quite as well. And I will say this again or or as well as we’d like it to. Also, we’re Still dealing with the human being, and the human being brings their own issues to the setup, whether it be previous injuries, whether it be They don’t sleep because they have a puppy or a baby at home. They don’t , right? They don’t eat well. They’re not healthy in general. They don’t have a general level of health.

Kelly Feldkamp:

These things, no matter how much technology we bring to it, are always going to be a factor. So take a look at your workforce. Let’s start changing the culture and how we wanna take care of them knowing that we can prevent these injuries and keep your Craft workers with you longer and as more effectively as possible as effectively as possible.

Molly Ruland:

So what kind of companies are you working with? Like, are These really big construction companies or, like, who do you work for?

Kelly Feldkamp:

Yeah. So we kinda have a big deal, it’s gotta be a little bit of a bigger company. In order for it to make sense for Provention Plus, for example, to be on-site when there’s 50 folks or more on a project. 50 and up, and we can kind of work with them. It can be constructed. It can be warehousing. Basically, anywhere where there’s Manual labor happening. What we’re trying to figure out is how to expand into other arenas other than just the manufacturing in the construction because the hardest part is when you’ve got workers that are spread out far and wide.

Kelly Feldkamp:

If you’ve got people in one spot, this is where Provention is the most effective In terms of the actual hands on work that we do. The warm ups that we do, which is just, almost every industrial setting that you’ll ever be in now Has some sort of a stretch and flex where they say, okay, everybody. Get together at the beginning of the day, and you’re gonna do your warm up or your stretch and flex, which is really And this is absolutely true. How well can you count to 8 seconds, basically? They’re like, hold the stretch for 8 seconds. Hold the stretch for 8 seconds. And they’re like, okay. Go to work. It’s not a warm up.

Kelly Feldkamp:

So Provention Plus has reinvigorated or rein like, restored, like, some movement, some actual. We’re creating some movement patterns to get people ready for work. So anyone can do that, and that’s what we’re working on too. That’s our next phase of just Pushing out, an app, which is going to be available to companies that are on the smaller side that don’t have the we can’t get in there to do our sessions like that, but you’re certain still gonna Have an effect on your whole whole group of people that are working. Did that answer your question?

Molly Ruland:

Oh, go ahead, Matt.

Matt Billman:

No. I’m just, like, interested.

Molly Ruland:

Okay. So speaking of technology not kinda keeping up, like, You know, in this world of AI, right, and being able to come up with all these answers and conclusions and read data points and stuff, how do you see that impacting the work that you’re doing. You know? Like, how does that tie in? Yeah.

Kelly Feldkamp:

I’m interested to see what’s gonna end up happening. It’s been And not to take it off AI, but for a moment, I’ve worked with some folks in some of the companies that I work with, and their whole goal is innovation. So I get to see all these kinda cool things within some industries, and they’re coming up with some amazing things. There’s something I’m no joke about. It’s called, like, the exoskeleton. And you put it on, and it helps you with the work that you do because of the fact that you’re doing repetitive motion. So here’s a perfect example. It goes on your upper body, and it Helps you hold your arms up.

Kelly Feldkamp:

So if you’re an electrician and you’ve got work up in the ceiling for, like, hours on end, you don’t have to hold your arms. Their arms are just there. I’m like, this is amazing. I tried 1 on. Like, how cool is this? And then, like, you try to bring your arms down to grab a tool or to do something, and if you have to You have to work to bring it down. So okay. Right? So you’re not there yet. They’re gonna get there.

Kelly Feldkamp:

They’re gonna make it great. I know they are. We’re all gonna be walking around like RoboCop here, but the problem with that is then our bodies don’t have to do the work. And so my thought is, like, we we We’re yes. And simply okay. If you’ve got repetitive work that needs to be done, let’s take these technologies and let’s use them and let’s. There’s a place for them. Making sure we fully understand that that is not the answer because the answer is we’ve gotta get people stronger or healthier, However you wanna look at it to do the job because I know we’re gonna get away from there’s not gonna be as as high of a need for all the craft workers we have now.

Kelly Feldkamp:

I know that things are changing, but there will always be a need for some. And so we can keep those men and women healthier, stronger, And more efficient at what they’re doing. They’re gonna have a long productive life and they’re gonna make good money preparation by taking care of their family and or themselves. But if we say, oh, you don’t need to worry about how strong or healthy you are. You just come here and put this thing on, and we’re gonna set your environment up for you. We’re just going down a Really poor path, I think.

Molly Ruland:

Yeah. It’s a little bit too much of a pain on technology because you really need to be, you need to have that strength. You need to exercise those muscles and have a strong core and all that to be able to balance out Yeah. Everything else because it’s all relative. Right? So Mhmm. Mhmm. Then you start probably having problems with having your arms up too much. Right? You’re being in that position.

Molly Ruland:

That’s not 100%. A normal human position to be, like, 100%.

Matt Billman:

Just had to Google it. It looks just extremely uncomfortable too.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Right. And there’s that It

Matt Billman:

looks like the movie, Elysium with Matt Damon where they wore those suits and the things in the back of your head. And yeah.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, like, think about it too. If you’re not the exact right size for it as well, like, there’s just there’s a lot of I mean, it’s cool. Right? There’s some cool Cool stuff that they’re doing. They’re figuring these little things out are gonna be really interesting, but how that kinda plays into it. And then AI too is Maybe we’ll start to figure out we’ll start companies will start asking questions like what’s gonna keep my people, like, with me longer? And the answers are gonna be general health, Flexibility, mobility, stability, like right? Like, like, changing up jobs or there’s if they start to look at these, I mean, the answers are already there.

Kelly Feldkamp:

So, really, I guess, that it comes back to us, like, we almost have to stop looking at technology and start going back and looking back and saying, hey. What has kept us healthy in the end, like, not necessarily job side athletes, but people. Let’s stop. We don’t need to look at all the fancy stuff. Let’s go to move well, eat as well as you can, be as strong as you can, sleep well, like, all these basics. Pull these in, and then we have a better setup. So day by day, job site by job site, Company by company that we work with, we’re changing the culture because we’re saying, hey. I mean, look.

Kelly Feldkamp:

My background is massage therapy. We hire massage therapists. We hire athletic trainers. We hire people that work in physical therapy. At the end of the day, the old guy on the job who’s been there for, like, you know, 50 years is, like, you’re doing your massage you’re doing what With construction workers? Like, what are you, nuts? Like, that’s crazy. I want no part of it, but then you come in for a session and you see it’s a clinical approach. We’re giving you exercises. We’re not here to give you cucumber water and rub your toes.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Like, we’re literally here to say, hey. Maybe if that’s necessary. But Yeah. But, no, if you ‘re here to say, hey. These are the things that are gonna help you, again, work better, But live better. Right?

Matt Billman:

Yeah.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Get the job done, but then at the end of the day, at the end of the, at the end of the week, at the end of the year, at the end of your career, you’re in a better place.

Matt Billman:

Yeah. And you’ve kinda you you said things from the past, seeing what works and what hasn’t, and I feel like you’ve kind of answered this from a broad scope of Developing things moving forward, but what are some things maybe that trends developments that kind of excite you specifically?

Kelly Feldkamp:

I think, really, more than anything, it’s the openness. Right? The openness that people are starting to have, that there are options for that in wellness that we’re seeing. Right? So, like, there’s a big thing about sleep right now. There’s a big thing about, like, making sure you get enough sleep, making sure you eat, like, a generally healthy diet. We’re actually talking about that stuff in, like, the mainstream, And that more and more people are getting involved in these in these industrial settings that maybe think that that’s important for themselves and wanna push that down the chain for everyone else. So I think that’s one of the biggest things I can say is there’s and there’s this cultural shift happening. It is happening. It’s gonna take a long time still depending on the type of people that are in these industries.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Like, the good old boys like to say it like that, but it’s true. Like, I did it this way, so this is how we’re gonna do it. It got the job done, and that’s great. Yeah. But the reality is there’s a better way to do it. And look at you moving around here, sir, at 62. Like, You’re not moving well, and I’m not saying, like like, let’s let’s shift that. Let’s make sure people do move a little bit better when they get out of this career.

Kelly Feldkamp:

And so I would say, in terms of wellness trends, the younger folks that are coming in, again, think it’s important for themselves, and then they start to say, hey, I think this would be great for everybody else too. So let’s start to accept these things that are happening in the job site, not just be, like, okay, fine. We have to do our warm up in the morning. They’re, like, hey, guys. Let’s do a warm up. I’m doing it with you.

Matt Billman:

Yeah. Yeah. Like, let’s just all pop in and do it real quick.

Molly Ruland:

Yeah. So my next question to you is, let’s talk about, like, the real wins with prevention plus and the companies that you work with. And I know that we’re talking a lot about caring for people and setting them up for success, and I’m all for that. Right? I read this book one time. I can never remember the name of it, but it said that the safer we try to make things, the more dangerous they become. Like, seat belts or, like, You know, single use plastic water bottles. Like, they can help a lot of people, but they’re also, like, killing the plant. Right? Like and he talked about how the simp like, the most fragile thing on the planet is probably light bulbs, and they’re still shipped in, like, this thin, thin corrugated cardboard.

Molly Ruland:

Right? And then it’s just kinda like the more safe we make them, the more complicated. So it’s kinda like the exoskeleton. Right? It’s like, okay. It’s a cool idea, but they’re super expensive. And, I mean, if you look at a job site, you have dudes out there that are literally 4 foot 2 to 6 foot 5. Right? So, like, I don’t even know how the heck that would work. So dialing it back in on this, like, very basic stuff. Right? Like, what are the actual wins, the financial revenue wins for these companies that are engaging with you? Like, what kind of savings do they look like? What does that really translate to them at the end of the day? Yeah.

Kelly Feldkamp:

So what you gotta look at, first of all, is the cost of these injuries. So just a medically seen injury on a, like and I’ll spit speak specifically of construction right now. 1 cost of 1 medically seen injury that could be, like, the, like, the simplest little thing, $40,000. If I have to go take someone to the clinic and it becomes recordable, it is $40,000 for, like, like, a little small ankle sprain that They’ll be healed shortly, but it’s just it’s that’s the way the system works. So on average, if you can prevent any of those, Right? You’re gonna be, you’re gonna see the saving side of that. So that’s the first thing that we look at. It’s like, how can we reduce the number of injuries so that therefore reducing the cost? Then you’re gonna look at the benefits of that, on the side. There’s a rating that happens within these industries too.

Kelly Feldkamp:

The better rating they have, the better insurance they’re gonna be getting, so you’re bringing that down. We’re looking at that. And then finally and the most important part, obviously, to me because this is where my passion lies is that you’re gonna create that better setup, you’re gonna bring more good people into your company. You’re gonna keep the people around as well longer because they’re gonna see, hey. Not only do they provide good pay And this, but they’re not driving us into the ground, and they’re providing us Provention Plus, which is gonna, keep people feeling good and working well. So yeah. So those are but the big money win part is, like, how can we reduce those in those actual injuries and not just the ones so here’s the thing that’s interesting. So you have the cost of the injuries, But then inevitably, you know you’ve got the people that are walking around injured that aren’t gonna say anything, and they’re not doing anything on the job.

Kelly Feldkamp:

I mean, they’re working, But they’re not being effective, and they’re not being efficient at all in their time and their work. And then they’re not gonna be, like, helpful to others? Like, look. If you gotta carry something heavy with someone else and that person’s kind of injured, how’s that gonna go? So Yeah. All of these factors play into each other. So we’re really trying to Make people understand that from the, you know, the ones that are sitting in the c suites just saying, like, hey. Let’s make sure that we build this building really fast. Well, let’s make sure we do it well, and the people that are actually building it out there are doing it well as well and feeling well. So yeah.

Molly Ruland:

Because I would imagine, like, turnover is expensive, especially these days. Right? Like, trying to find people

Kelly Feldkamp:

Oh my gosh.

Molly Ruland:

Trying to get people to stay on the job, like, trying to get people to come to work in general. Right? It’s a different time nowadays, apparently.

Kelly Feldkamp:

It Is very difficult. And the people that are coming into the trades as well, there’s way less. There’s way less. You just don’t have them. So how do you keep those older people feeling good for longer?

Molly Ruland:

Makes a big difference. So, Kelly, if a company is, like, watching this and interested in what you’re saying, what is the best way for them to, get ahold of you, engage with you, talk to you about how you can help with their comp their recordables and their expenses and their, you know, retention, numbers. Well,

Kelly Feldkamp:

if they’re interested at all in seeing a little bit more about it, of course, you can go to the LinkedIn page. It’s Provention Plus. You can go to the Instagram page to see some of our exercises that we put up there. That’s also Provention Plus. And then maybe I can give you our phone number and put it in the show notes. That’d be great. And you can directly connect with myself or with Brian, Our my business partner and husband, and, we can answer any questions you guys have. Be great.

Kelly Feldkamp:

Be awesome.

Molly Ruland:

Excellent. Well, if I owned a construction company, I would call you, but I also know how important all that stuff is and how important stretching I mean, it’s such a simple thing. Right? And I think we live in this age of, like, Oh, no. There has to be a pill or a, right, candy I can take or Really, candy. Yeah. I can wear a suit at the end of the day. You know? You’re like, no. That’s not not like, you just gotta do the work, but Sometimes, you know, just like in physical therapy, like, the smallest little movements can really strengthen something and make a huge difference.

Molly Ruland:

I know I’m a runner, and just doing T band stretches makes a difference between me being able to function as a human being in life or being crippled over in pain, and it’s like a 15 second stretch makes all the difference in the world.

Matt Billman:

Right? Just even a company could get in their employees, the standing desk. Yes. I feel like that could

Kelly Feldkamp:

Yes. And here’s the key with that too, at standing desks, because I think they’re wonderful, is the minute you see yourself, Shifting and holding 1 position while you’re standing is when you sit. Sit for 5, stand back up. And, also, you should have something close by, either a stool or something that’s almost like, you know, in a bar where you have that little foot rest?

Matt Billman:

The foot rest. Yeah.

Kelly Feldkamp:

You want something? Because then you can raise your foot up and then alternate to side because then you’ll stay standing longer,

Molly Ruland:

and you

Kelly Feldkamp:

won’t be in a bad position. But you wanna give yourself you wanna be able to stand up for long, but if you do this, standing. Yeah. It’s just as bad as sitting. So you

Matt Billman:

You’re just leaning over.

Kelly Feldkamp:

The whole idea of standing is to promote movement because movement is the key. Movement is definitely the key. So yeah.

Matt Billman:

It’s like you go on these standing desk websites and, like, you can add the add on for an extra 1.99. That’s a little mini treadmill that you walk on under your desk.

Kelly Feldkamp:

You’re like

Molly Ruland:

You’re like, okay, dude. Because I

Matt Billman:

I bought 1, like, 2 years ago, and then I moved. And I was kind of a dummy. I, like, mounted my stuff to my wall, but now I went to raise my desk. And I was like, because my monitors are mounted to my wall, not to my desk. So Yeah. Doesn’t work.

Kelly Feldkamp:

There’s too many things to think about. You’re on the right track, though.

Matt Billman:

Oh, you’re like, come on.

Molly Ruland:

I know I’ve been thinking about actually creating, like, a standing desk area that, like, I could just work at sometimes, maybe with a laptop and a can a keyboard and then, like, have my, you know, because with the mic and the camera, right, like, it’s not always practical, but there’s ways, like, way to

Kelly Feldkamp:

Definitely ways

Molly Ruland:

to do it. Well, Kelly, thanks for coming on the show today. I think what you do is super school, but I’ve also been impacted by these things for, you know, my entire life, so I definitely recognize the importance of it. But, You know? If I was a company owner, I think the bottom line, right, like, even if you’re not as con listen. As a business owner, you wanna Be concerned, but sometimes you can’t afford to be as concerned as you would like to be. Right? You’re like, okay. I’m not a jerk, but where is this coming from? Right?

Kelly Feldkamp:

Right.

Molly Ruland:

But I think yours, It’s a no brainer. Right? Like, you’re saving them so much money that whatever the cost is to hire you is, like, easily covered by the amount of money you’re saving them on these reportables. So Yeah. I hope that, you know, whoever’s listening to this, if they know any construction business owners, they tell their friends because this seems like a really smart way to, to head into the next phase of this, post COVID, you know, the world that we live in. Right?

Kelly Feldkamp:

Keep focused on your own people that are actually doing the work for you and keeping the business going because if you don’t have them, you don’t have a business, and They’re not expendable. You can’t be like, I’ll just get another one. Like, that’s just not how it works. So as long as we can keep our mind on that, and, again, like I said, I’m changing the culture 1 one company, 1 job site at a time, 1 superintendent or Yeah. Showing them some movement, so that’s all. I will. But, yeah, it’s exciting, and I’m looking forward to continuing to expand as we are.

Molly Ruland:

Absolutely. Well, Kelly, thanks for coming on the show today, and, and, we’ll see you again real soon. And if anybody would like to book Kelly on their podcast, hit me up. As you can see, she got a killer setup. And, And, of course, head up the website, connect with Kelly, get those discovery calls popping, get her in to show you guys what, what works she can do to save you money and keep your employees super happy. So on that note, thanks for tuning in to Camp Content, and we’ll see you real soon.